Can Different Cultures Think the Same Thoughts? by Kenneth Dorter

Can Different Cultures Think the Same Thoughts? by Kenneth Dorter

Author:Kenneth Dorter
Language: eng
Format: epub
Publisher: U of Notre Dame
Published: 2018-01-12T00:00:00+00:00


Confucius and Socrates

In several ways Confucius and Socrates have much in common. Both founded the dominant intellectual traditions of their culture, both achieved their influence by teaching rather than writing, both thought the key to virtue was knowledge, both attempted to put their ideas into practice by entering political life, and both were unsuccessful because of their inability to overcome corruption within their societies. But these resemblances are merely formal, and when we turn to the content of their thought, at first glance Confucius and Socrates seem to represent opposite extremes. One was a proponent of rigorous social conventions to be obeyed without question for whom propriety and loyalty were cardinal virtues. The other was an iconoclast who devoted his life to confronting conventional values and unexamined obedience, challenging them with natural value and independence of mind, for whom courage was a cardinal virtue and loyalty was not, and who was condemned to death for his disrespect of tradition. Confucius, however, was living in a feudal monarchy and Socrates in an obstreperous democracy. Here again we see the influence of culture on thinking, but many if not all of the differences may be regarded as reflecting a difference of emphasis rather than a difference of values. Confucius may not have been a gadfly in Socrates’s sense (Apology 30a), but for all his espousal of learning traditions rather than challenging them, his disciples were told by an official that “Heaven shall use the master as a wooden bell” (Analects 3.24), a metaphor not unlike that of the gadfly, since the function of such a bell was to rouse or awaken the people.1 And for all his insistence on the conventions of propriety, he said, “If a man is not humane, what has he to do with propriety?” (3.3). On the other side Socrates, for all his iconoclasm and defiance, argues strenuously in the Crito, Republic, and Laws in favor of respecting and obeying the law.

It is hardly surprising that Confucius and Socrates cannot really represent opposite extremes, because each of them saw goodness as a mean,2 rather than as something to be achieved by extreme measures. Both saw the mean as the key to successful government. Speaking of the two legendary sage-kings that he took as a model, Confucius relates that Yao told Shun, “Faithfully adhere to the mean and thy rule shall extend to the Four Seas’ ends; heaven’s blessings shall last throughout thy reign” (20.1). And in Plato’s Laws the Athenian says,

If one gives a greater degree of power to what is lesser, neglecting the mean . . . then everything is upset. . . . There does not exist, my friends, a mortal soul whose nature will ever be able to wield the greatest human ruling power when young and irresponsible, without becoming filled in its mind with the greatest disease, unreason, which makes it become hated by its closest friends. When this comes about it quickly destroys it and obliterates all its power. Guarding against this, then, by knowing the mean, is the task of great lawgivers.



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