Red Pill Ideology: Lifting the Shiny Wrapping from the Manosphere by Cynthia Payne

Red Pill Ideology: Lifting the Shiny Wrapping from the Manosphere by Cynthia Payne

Author:Cynthia Payne [Payne, Cynthia]
Language: eng
Format: epub
Publisher: Independently Published
Published: 2022-05-30T00:00:00+00:00


Before proceeding, let us establish if Roosh V. meets Red Pill’s criteria for a high-value man. I am not privy to Roosh’s bank statements, but a quick Google search puts his current net worth at around $1.5 million. He is not obese and from the photos I’ve seen from Google searches seems to be reasonably fit. I have no idea how tall he is, but I’ve yet to find a photo of him standing next to someone that wasn’t shorter than him. I’d estimate he is, at a bare minimum, 5’10”. He’s certainly attractive enough to have amassed a large bodycount and has been highly successful with women. He has widespread name recognition. He is within Red Pill’s prime age range for men of 35-43. By every criteria Red Pill has for what constitutes a “high-value man,” Roosh V. either meets it or comes awful close. He even meets our unicorn status of being highly religious and willing to wait for sex with his current partner until marriage (Lady, p.113), making him potentially within the 12% of men that high-quality virgin women select from.

Roosh V. is now in the market to find a wife and a mother to the children he desperately wants. When Roosh’s sister died shortly before his reinvention of himself, she took with her the only meaningful relationship with a woman Roosh ever had, and the thought of being alone for the rest of his life scared the daylights out of him. At the time of publishing Lady (which he dedicated to his late sister) his PUA skills allow him to get dates with these high-value women he and other Red Pill men covet (21-25, beautiful, low bodycount, wanting to focus on building a family), but as soon as they found out about his promiscuous history and past hypocrisy towards women, those ideal wives and mothers went running. This isn’t just my interpretation of his dating struggles, he said it with his own words: “While it’s positive that you’ve learned from your past, you won’t be able to escape it entirely. The more mistakes you’ve made, the more likely you will lose good men, just like how I’ve lost girls because of my public sexual history” (Lady, p.114).

One thing that stood out to me was the sorts of things he writes about learning in his recent actual relationships with women, such as how to resist the temptation of other women. Lessons that, frankly, I’d expect a man to learn with his high school sweetheart. But Roosh is now in his forties and is struggling with the concept of having to either drastically lower his standards (which he recommends women do in Lady) or join a monastery and make peace with being alone for the rest of his life. All he can do is seduce women that he doesn’t want, and the hollowness of the life he’s built for himself has led him into an existential crisis.

I checked back in on Roosh V.’s blog shortly before writing this chapter (a bit over two years after he published Lady) to see how he was doing.



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