Shout Kill Revel Repeat by Scott R. Jones

Author:Scott R. Jones [Jones, Scott R.]
Language: eng
Format: epub
Tags: epub, ebook, QuarkXPress
Publisher: JournalStone
Published: 2019-08-31T00:00:00+00:00

Worse than Demons

[ New Heretic Magazine

[ Asha Satyamurthy interview with Gregory Martens

[ excerpt running time 00:23:17

[ burstcast to noönet 20430215

New Heretic Magazine: A large part of your appeal as an auteur has been attributed to what some have called an obsession with the infantile. I’m not sure that’s an entirely fair descriptor, but there is a marvellous sense of wonder in your films that could be called childlike. Can you tell us a bit about that?

Gregory Martens: Yeah, infantile, there’s a rather obvious sneer in there, hey? Well, if it makes them feel clever, why not? Sure, I’ve never been afraid to explore the pre-verbal states in my work. I think, and I believe this, I really do, I think that we don’t know what we are, as a species, because it’s been so long since we were authentically ourselves. I mean, we were talking about memetic colonization the other day, Colleen Davros and I, this was up at Esalen for, what, Tusk’s little thinktank, and I said well sure it’s an epidemic now, but that’s only because our ontological immune systems have become so fucking compromised by language in the first place, right?

NHM: That’s nothing new, though, surely? Language as a virus? Burroughs and company made excellent hay of that idea seventy years ago.

GM: Absolutely, and it continues to agitate the infected to this day! Moreso, even. The uproar at Esalen, well. There’s video, I encourage you to pull it up for shits and giggles. Before Tusk gets it pulled. Which, y’know, it’s funny, it is, because I can recall years past when the idea would barely elicit a nervous cough or two from the audience. Colleen and I had to be escorted out for safety reasons. Now, why do you suppose that is?

NHM: It’s a sensitive issue for a lot of people. The plague.

GM: Yes. And there’s that fine old word again. Fairly drips with associations. Sticky. Yes, plague tends to divide folks, historically. I’m going to correct you, though: It’s a sensitive issue to the virus. But you wanted to talk about the films. I think it all comes down to, I don’t want to say a return to Eden or anything like that, but certainly a reassessment of a childlike worldview, a pre-verbal worldview. I’m interested in seeing things as they are, or at least going as far as possible towards that. I don’t think I succeed. I doubt I ever will.

NHM: Can you talk about projects where you’ve come close?

GM: That really depends on the mood I’m in? Mood factors quite heavily, because, again, pre-verbal knowledge, or awareness. And my mood today, well . . . open? Not exactly nostalgic, but there’s a breeze from the past I’ve been feeling since I, since I woke up, really. Odd. But there again, trying to English it makes for the crumbling of the awareness. Ah, it’s gone. Hey hey! Poof.

NHM: Sorry? Didn’t want to throw you off.

GM: Oh, how can you be? I mean that sincerely. Proust had to swallow that cookie eventually! Don’t worry about it.

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